Frock Flick Free-for-All End of the Year


You asked for it, so here’s an occasional open thread to bitch about anything tangentially related to history, costume, movies, or TV shows! Or whatever else is on your mind right now. Note that URLs are automatically held for moderation, but most anything else goes as long as you’re not bitchier than we are!

We’ve had a year’s worth of open thread posts, once at the start of each month. Whatcha think — how’d you like ’em? Should we keep doing it next year?

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Let’s hear it!


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26 Responses

  1. Sam Marchiony

    More news on the crappy MQOS front! Apparently James I is now a rape-baby! (sarcastic yaaaaay).
    Man, am I glad that it didn’t get any Golden Globe buzz, I hope the Oscars likewise ignore this nonsense.

    • Lasair

      I read a scathing review in the Irish Times saying “This won’t win anything other than costume, hair or makeup” right AFTER the reviewer had said the outfits were ridiculously inauthentic and Saoirse Ronan shouldn’t be rowing to Scotland in a designer dress.

      Surely judges pay some attention to authenticity when it comes to costumes, hair and makeup? Surely the reviewer is wrong and it won’t be considered?

  2. Saraquill

    I enjoy these free for all. I’m pro having this continue next year.

    However, a math equation entered my head. If the FF team each takes a shot whenever someone requests a review, and a double shot for a review they already done, how long will they stay upright?

    I don’t think there will be much Frock Flicks if anyone tests this.

  3. Dove

    I am loving the new season of Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. So many pretty clothes…

  4. Sam Marchiony

    I read it in the Vulture review, Darnley gets angry-drunk and rape-y, then Mary has James and it’s all ‘yay, motherhood is power and this is feminism.’
    I find myself longing for the dignity of Reign.

  5. Brandy Loutherback

    However minor, I do have a negative opinon on Emma Stone and other harlots…I mean starlets complaining about having to wear corsets in period films! I’m just saying.

  6. Rachel

    I’ve had a supremely awful week, starting with an earthquake last Friday, and my stepdad breaking his ankle on Monday, so I took myself to see Robin Hood.

    And it was just as terrible as I wanted it to be! Hairpin shortage! Weird Leather jackets! “Draft” notices!

    So, so, so, so bad! But I’m not sure if it was so bad it was good?

  7. Kate D

    Yes to free for all posts in the new year!

    I love your work, your blog is a gift that keeps on giving. Thank you, ladies!

    “What do you give the period drama viewer who has everything? A Frock Flicks patreon subscription!”

  8. Nzie

    I like to think I’m torn over whether to see MQoS but there are so many other movies I’m interested in that.. no, not going to go out of my way for that one. I’ll catch it on Netflix, Prime, or from the Redbox, maybe, at some point. I don’t really know much about that period in costumes so if I can spot how awful it is… Also the rape thing is frustrating.

    On a semi-related note, James I was featured on Doctor Who recently, played very effetely by Alan Cummings. Anyone catch that? It was centered on the Pendle witches. With DW you never know what exactly you’re going to get (are they pulling costumes from a serious production? or is it just ye olde timey wimey?) but it looked basically accurate. They somehow turned James’ witch hunting into a mommy problem with a throwaway line? One day I hope MQoS gets to the screen, big or small, in an authentic way.

      • Nzie

        He was super fun to watch! I’m just annoyed at the changes to history. I like the new characters and Doctor, but I don’t think the writers’ room has found its groove yet.. I’d prefer all James with a different plot line than messing with the Pendle witches. :-)

  9. Janet Nickerson

    Anyone viewing ‘The Pinkertons’ on Ovation Friday mornings (in the US)? Canadian production gets points for the emphasis on the life and work of Kate Warne, but minus points for the hairpin shortage. American Civil War era is not my strong point, so I’m sure there’s lots more to snark about.

  10. Nzie

    Back to share this link—English Heritage official youtube page did an Elizabethan make-up tutorial, including comments from Amber Butchard the fashion historian from A Stitch in Time. I’m going to check if there are other tutorials. Makes it seem like MQoS maybe went overboard on the face powder, but then I’m not sure—maybe someone here knows?

  11. Nzie

    More on MQoS—The Atlantic isn’t sure about imposing 21st century feminism onto 16th century queens, but then spends a whole article lamenting Mary being triumphant in having a child when Elizabeth doesn’t… which may not have been a thing historically but may be closer to attitudes at the time? Not that I don’t agree with their frustration with it, but I very much support this blog’s attitude of showing women’s lives for what they were—including ideas and viewpoints we disagree with or may not understand. (Not saying they should’ve gone this route, either, and it sounds like it may be a bit hamfisted, but.. motherhood was the point for women who didn’t enter religious life, pretty much, for centuries, including before Christianity, with the vestal virgins.)

    Atlantic article: