29 thoughts on “Finishing Out Season 2 of The Spanish Princess

  1. Wow! Hanging sleeves and a gable hood! Be still my heart!! Of course they left out the heavily jeweled billiment that should decorate the gable hood and the French hood too but give them a B for effort!
    Anne Boleyn is much too conventionally pretty.

  2. Margaret’s teeth baring was hilarious.
    The actress playing Anne Boleyn felt miscast.She looked too cute to evoke her charisma.
    I was honestly expecting a nun’s habit for Catherine in the final episode.I am surprised that they didn’t put a birdhouse on her to pass off as a gable.

  3. That first pic of Maggie’s French hood looks like it has polyester upholstery trim that’s been badly glued on.

  4. I just hated this whole show from a history standpoint. If they wanted to do a culturally diverse girl-power show set in Medieval England they should have just left actual history out of it. The most historically accurate thing about it was that Henry VIII married Catherine of Aragon and they had a daughter named Mary. That’s it. It makes “The Tudors” look spot on by comparison!

        1. Probably a dropped sub-plot where Catherine had a fling with Oviedo (Lina’s husband) and he’s really Mary’s father.

          1. Not that I’d blame Catherine for having a fling with Oviedo (who wouldn’t want to have a fling with him?!), but if Mary was fathered by Oviedo, she’d have been a more lively child, I think; and do more than stare out morosely at the world.

  5. Tudor women didn’t wear blue. At all (find me one!) The reason being that servants wore blue at the Tudor court. Don’t want to be taken for a servant!
    Yes, they wore blue elsewhere on the continent, but not in England.

    1. In the actual paintings it looks they just wore combinations of red, black and yellow/gold, is that true?

  6. The series’ clothes improved in the last 2 episodes, the story didn’t. What they did to Anne Boleyn was awful. Not only that nude scene, but also the fact that they didn’t have her any chance to speak or defend herself. In the interviews Emma Frost and her crew seemed to resent Anne’s popularity, like… C’mon, the woman has been dead for 500 years, she went through a lot of shit… How can you call yourself a feminist and refer to Anne as “overrated” or “that witch”?

    The square French hood on Maggie… Isn’t it based on the Hoods seen in the 1520s Holbein sketches of Anne Cresacre & Cecily More, rather than those of the the Marian Era? Is what I thought when I watched TSP finale, and I felt delighted!

    1. Yeah, I didn’t get into the boob shot with Anne although I rolled my eyes through the whole thing.

      Good point on the squared off French hood! You’re right, it does look like those worn in the 1520s Holbein images. My mistake!

    2. That could definitely be a kennel hood, but it’s worn too far back and is severely under decorated like Catherine’s gable hood.

  7. I haven’t caught up on this yet, but… to me, the Anne Boleyn actress looks too “sweet” to be a fiery Anne. She looks timid to me, which doesn’t fit my image of Anne. Some pretty costumes, though. And I agree with you, Catherine lying about her marriage doesn’t fit Historical Catherine at all. Though the things they did to Henry VII and Margaret Beaufort in the earlier series are just as bad. :P

  8. You forgot that Maggie Pole’s unrequited love for Thomas More fizzled out when she discovered he was into torturing heretics and she wasn’t.
    Also, how is it consistent with her character that Catherine “I respect Islam” of Aragon gets a whiff of Martin Luther and wants to set the Protestants on fire herself?
    I wonder if Mary will grow up to realize they set her non-native, tamed pet free in the middle of winter.

    Any thoughts on who would be good at portraying Eleanor of Aquitaine and Henry II? I had a terrible thought that Stars, having employed him once already, will push to cast the actor who plays Henry in this.

    1. Yes, all I could think of at the end was ‘that poor bird’; since I doubt that tropical birds like parrots could survive freedom in the cold outdoors of England’s winter. The pseudo-historical ending reminded me of the ending of the “Other Boleyn Girl” movie – both ended with the heroine taking a daughter of Henry VIII away from him, without his permission, to go live in the country somewhere. Never would have happened! And the real Catherine would never have willingly left Henry; she believed he was her husband.

      It’s as if the show’s creators decided that real history, i.e. the truth, was not good enough for 21st century viewers; or that we couldn’t handle the truth of Catherine’s rise and fall, so they spun a feminist fairy tale (which also entailed Margaret Tudor practically frothing at the mouth because she’s a crazy Tudor or whatever). Real feminists can handle the truth of history, even if women suffered historically. The greatness in Catherine of Aragon was that although she suffered the effects of Henry’s anger and scorn and detachment, she never gave up on him or their marriage; never relinquished her right to be Queen of England, and died as a brave Spanish Princess.

    2. Is it necessary to say More never tortured any heretics? As a layman he wouldn’t be involved in the trial or examination of heretics at all.

  9. I really liked the patterned velvets used this season. That dark turquoise pattern on Catherine, while not completely historically accurate, is just beautiful and I wish I could get my hands on some of it for sewing. Joanne’s, when does The Spanish Princess collection come out?

  10. I don’t get Starz; can any of these people, apart from Harriet Walters, act or were they just cast for their looks?

    1. Nope. If they’re not going to write a good script, why bother looking (and paying) for talented experts instead of high-cheekboned sexpots who will do as many nude scenes as you ask?

  11. It’s a shame they went for such a shaggy look for Henry. He had a beard, yes, but he, being as vain as any king, kept it and the rest of his appearance meticulously neat.

  12. I don’t mind a portrayal where KOA sleeps with her first husband, she wouldn’t have done anything wrong (especially when she got a dispensation for sleeping with Arthur when she married Henry, it was all clear as far as the pope went).
    And religious people are capable of lying, and as long as she was able to confess her lies, I think she would be all clear with that as well? Maybe pay some indulgences, idk.
    I guess it’s the fact that she didn’t mention never sleeping with Arthur in her last confession, despite Chapuys having expected her to do so, that makes me think it might have happened. She might also not have done so of course, but there’s enough doubt that I’m okay with either portrayal. That’s the least offensive TSP did imo, they did much worse things (like Katherine taking newborn Henry Fitzroy away from his pleading mother,or her ignoring her daughter Mary, wth??)

    I thought Anne was cute, she was historically so young during the timeframe of TSP, that it genuinely refreshing to see a more sweet faced actress, instead of “sexy”, “cold”, “cunning” that seems to be popular with Anne castings for some strange reason. Did not expect that from the showrunners who calls her a witch😶
    Was not surprised that they eventually made her take off her clothes and reduce her to being a sexy body, that sadly seems to be the norm when it comes to Anne Boleyn and Kathryn Howard

  13. I ironically thought Anne’s casting was alright face wise. She was supposed to be average pretty. The only quibble is on actress’s acting choices and script but yeah, i would take pretty , effort making dresses over garbage bag The White Princess costumes any day

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